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The Tower Of Babble: A Storm In A Teacup Part 5,000,001

March 29th, 2007 | No Comments | Posted in Babble, Pandora's Box

Just had word that the BBC Messageboard moderators have KINDLY removed my posting [see the previous entry] because it contravened the House Rules in some way. They state, that postings to BBC messageboards will be removed if they:

  1. Are considered likely to provoke, attack or offend others
  2. Are racist, sexist, homophobic, sexually explicit, abusive or otherwise objectionable
  3. Contain swear words (including abbreviations or alternative spellings) or other language likely to offend
  4. Content considered to have been posted with an intention to disrupt the message boards will be removed.

But I note with a great deal of irony, all four points and how they pertain to the See Hear forums.

Well, here’s my original post in full, UNEDITED:

Subject:
BSL Users Visit Number 10 This Morning!Posting:
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The real reason those signing deafies were there, was to fix Tony Blairs washing machine. The interprter was needed as the deafie concerned doesn’t understand Washing Machine Language!

More to the point, they were there to hep Tony Blair on his New Deaf Awareness campaign called, wait for it, “I DON’T SIGN. I’M NEVER GONNA LEARN AND I’M PROUD OF IT!”

Watch for details of the march to be held in London in the winter of 2007!

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The Tower Of Babble: A Storm In A Teacup

March 29th, 2007 | No Comments | Posted in Babble, Pandora's Box

As you will be aware, I still lurk and surf the The Tower Of Babble Forums, to keep abreast of what the educated rabble are debating [bleating] about. The two latest threads causing great consternation [one of which is a storm in a teacup, hence the title of this post], are BSL Users Visit Number 10 This Morning!andWhat’s your favourite thing? Post your video now!

I am besides myself here people. I am wondering, really doing me brain in, trying to work what the hell they whinging about. PuttyTat created a new thread based around this item:

I was watching GMTV this morning before i went to work. They were interviewing Tony Blair on the current issues of the day ie Iran etc and behind the Prime Minsiter there were a group of people using BSL ! There must have been oh about 10 of them at least. it was around 8:15-8:30 this morning. Perhaps it was Doug alker looking for a new job !! I have looked on the Number 10 website but no joy in finding out who these people were! So maybe TB is more deaf aware than he is being credited for. But I hope he realises that not all deaf people uses BSL and that there is great diversity amongst deaf people !!BSL Users Visit Number 10 This Morning! [Message 1]

Quite seriously, I like her calling Tony Blair the Prime Minsiter [pronounced mince sitter], when it should be MINISTER [as in mini stir]. Of course I left my usual facetious remark, which was rather appropriate for a facetious debate such as this [except someone has complained that it was offensive, and the BBC are investigating to see if it breaks any of the house rules. It was summat about Deafies being there to fix Tony Blair's washing machine, and that the interpreter was needed, cos the Deafies didn't understand Washing Machine Language. Then I went on to say, they were there to spearhead a new campaign, "We Don't Sign, We Ain't Gonna learn and We Are Proud Of It!" Well, something like that.

Actually, if you wanna see the vid in question, go here, BSL Users Visit No 10 This Morning, and select the TONY BLAIR clip from the GMTV Highlights box next to the main void screen.
Anyway, SOME-ONE, COMPLAINED, that it was an offensive remark, and now the BBC have an obligation to INVESTIGATE it. Oh well, if they deem it to be offensive, maybe I should start reporting all these other facetious posts as offensive. That would give them pause. It was some educated Deafie who claims:

I would like to make some equally offensive comments but I don't drop down to that kind of level as I'm too educated, as are a lot of BSL users, for that kind of thing.BSL Users Visit Number 10 This Morning! [Message 35]

If educated deafie was that educated, they would have seen the facetious remark for what it was. A FUCKING FACETIOUS REMARK FOR AN EQUALLY FUCKING FACETIOUS THREAD. REAL Educated people can see this, and do not feel the need to pull rank by calling attention to their dubious educated status while looking down their rather long noses. Mebbe it’s a British thing? Who knows !

The other farce, sorry thread, What’s your favourite thing? Post your video now!,had a tad more merit, except for the stubborn foolery of the chief debater, determined to make all sorts of outlandish claims regarding discrimination and access, while steadfastly refusing to acknowledge that discrimination works in other ways too, and is often right there in the same space as he. All this too revolves around a video that was made by a Deafie who works for the See Hear program. Made as vids to YouTube are, and, and immediately the grand conspiracy theorist is at work. This Mensa aspirant could have created a real debate instead conjuring up a farce such as this!
The Tower Of Babble is in serious danger of becoming just that, The Tower Of Babble! You know in this life, some people should seriously consider going and…….!

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Confidence, If You Don’t Have It, There’s Training Program, To Help You Acquire It!

March 17th, 2007 | No Comments | Posted in Babble, Culture

I’m gonna turn the question, as posed by Robert Walker’s article, “Confidence among Deafies.. or the lack of…“, around. Bear in mind, the reference to Deaf ghetto’s in Robert’s post, and my subsequent response.

Forget the social and cultural pressures that we are subject to from the day we are born [even before then, when we are nothing but a parental desire for a child]. Forget the gender and sexual politics that consume us. Forget the racial and ethnic forces that clash. Forget the social and cultural model of disability in eternal conflict with the medical and victim model of disability. Instead, think of your own unique self. Tune into your inner voice.

Do you have the courage to be yourself? Do you have the courage to sail against the prevailing winds of conformity, inspite of the empty rhetoric of democracy and freedom? For me that is the question, the central issue and the point!

You can’t talk about CONFIDENCE and his mates INITIATIVE, SELF ESTEEM, ASSERTIVENESS, MOTIVATION, without talking about the blocks and barriers that erected daily as a disincentive to freedom, and the discovery of your true self. These blocks and barriers are many. They range from the political to the social to the cultural the racial to the religious to the sexual to the personal. Then there are blocks and barriers that takes the most insidious form. That of the Projectionist.

I know the word is a noun and the person, you know how to search online dictionaries to find the meaning. I am using it as an adjective to describe a person who projects their own failures, feelings, desires, needs and wants onto another person. You know the type I mean. Good. Then we can dredge up examples of individuals who illustrate this concept. They can be your parents, your siblings or even your friends. Lord knows how our culture, inspite of its rhetoric for democracy and freedom of choice, hates the very thing. Human beings are not really very comfortable with difference. They find comfort in conformity. At least some form of it.

Parents? How often do you modify your own desires, to acquiesce to your parents wishes? How often do you stop doing something because of parental disapproval? How often do you do something to seek that very approval? Not only your parents, but your friends [peer pressure]. Actively cultivating the approval of outsiders, in preference to your own needs and desires, is to your ultimate detriment.

Back to The Projectionist. Have you ever had a friend, sibling or parent whose own self confidence [indeed, talent] so lacking, that they actively work against your own efforts to progress and grow [undermine your own self confidence]? They do this under various guises, the most common are looking out for you, highlighting the pitfalls, concern, saving you from disappointment, even saving you from yourself.

The Projectionist devotes quality time to projecting [externalising] their own desires onto an external object [friend, sibling, partner, child], sucking both themselves and their victim into a vortex of conflict and recrimination. The projectionist can take the form of an institution, an organisation, a culture or social group, and they can be more dangerous, as they have the ability to inflict damage on entire groups of people.

Yet the supreme irony [for me], is that all progress and growth towards enlightenment comes from the efforts of the brave individuals who buck the system and forge their own path. Now they may not go onto fame and fortune [there are too many bloodsuckers laying in wait], but they invariably have a large influence on culture and society. The good news is that not all of them end up in wrack and ruin.

You see my friends, the path to confidence and self awareness and self determination, starts with the words, “Fuck you. I’m gonna do what I want!”

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People Sign Language Accorrding to MM Part Too

March 13th, 2007 | No Comments | Posted in Babble, Culture

It gets worse. The following statement, from the same ill-informed and ill-formed post:

Educationally, if a BSL user has not had a good education, then the sign inevitably, will be poor too, as will their need to adapt what they do know, to communicate as they can via their abilities, this too can lead to ‘rogue’ signing becoming colloquial signs, we’ve all seen them, and as such over time, they can enter the dictionary in that way, this is PSL, sign language of the people as they use it, is there really such a thing as ASL or BSL? is it not all, the ‘people’s sign language?

How does one dissect and deconstruct this to point out the flaws in the argument?

I’ve known many Deafies whose signing ability bears no relationship to their level of education. Their signing is exemplary. I’ve known educated Deafies whose signing is crap [to say the least]. For someone who considers signing a communication device at best, and not a language, how does he know what a rogue sign is? How does he know about colloquial signs [let alone know what they are]? The to go on and ask the question: “is there really such thing as ASL or BSL?” Furthermore, furthermore, further—-more,

“to adapt what they do know, to communicate as they can via their abilities, this too can lead to ‘rogue’ signing becoming colloquial signs..”

Excuse me? I am an educated Deafie and I create signs on the spur of the moment to fit a situation, discussion when there is no ready made sign available. I even do that with English. So what is your point MM?

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People Sign Language Accorrding To MM

March 13th, 2007 | No Comments | Posted in Babble, Culture

Under the guise of thought provoking commentary, we have MM, missing the point, entirely, or if not missing the point entirely, takes yet another potshot at “deaf purists, academics, and pundits”, whoever they are and where ever they are.

The issue with his post, is that, technically some of the points are quite correct. For example, signs change over time, there are regional variations, adjust a sign to fit the background as they understand it, and a few others. However, the man write with a deliberate swipe at Deaf Culture AND the validity of Sign Language as a language.

Sign is not just communication, it is a language.

Even more to the point, he wilfully ignores the reasoning behind people’s response’s to Melissa Regas on PSL. While, I agree, that the responses have not been constructive, Melissa has not been humble in her quest. Read my post on the topic. I’m not repeating myself.

I will say it again, SIGN IS NOT JUST COMMUNICATION, IT IS LANGUAGE.

I’m sure MM will heartedly disagree with me, if I said, that English is a communication tool, not a language. Which it isn’t. A Language that is. It is a mere assemblage of characters that hearing people attach sounds to, and put them together to promote the pretence of communication. They even flap lips to speak [whatever that is].

Why, there are even dictionaries promoting the cause.

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